JomSocial 1.8 "Wazi" is Here!

Posted by: azrul

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It has been a long wait, but it is finally here. We are proud to announce that JomSocial 1.8 "Wazi", which means "open" (in Swahili no less), is now available for download. So, what can you expect? There are lots and lots of enhancement. Simply put, we believe it is the top social networking software you can buy today!

altIntegrated Event Management

This is HUGE and we are particularly proud of this feature. What it does is to allow you to create and manage events easily. It will also intelligently display map as required with zero configuration. You can define how many "seats" available for the event, which allows you to limit event participants.


altProfile Video Support

Yes, we all know what profile picture is, those little avatars you see at your profile page. With JomSocial 1.8, we introduce something new, profile video! Introduce yourself, be more than just a picture.



altDrag & Drop Application Positioning

In previous release, there is only 1 position where you can display your application, which is in the main content section. In 1.8, we have introduced a "sidebar" content position. This gives users a lot more flexibility where an app can be displayed. Oh, you just need to drag and drop your apps to the desired position.


altSmarter & More Informative Activity Stream

You will notice a much better, more informative activity stream in this new version. We spent a lot of time refining each activity. It will automatically summarize the content for the activities if necessary.


Enhanced Media Handling

Handling of photos and video has been improved in so many ways. During photo upload for example, you will be able to preview the uploaded photos immediately. In album view, you can now re-arrange your photos easily, with a simple drag & drop operation. Browsing those photos is now a little easier with support for keyboard navigation.

These are just some of the new features. You might notice some features right away, but some might need a couple of clicks to be discovered. Take it for a spin! Fun is guaranteed by creating social networking sites with JomSocial!

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john holderness
icolas
June 23, 2010
There seems to be some confusion on what the GPL License means. This is from the FAQ on the gnu.org website.

Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my site?
Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide “equivalent access” to download the source—therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.

If I distribute GPL'd software for a fee, am I required to also make it available to the public without a charge?
No. However, if someone pays your fee and gets a copy, the GPL gives them the freedom to release it to the public, with or without a fee. For example, someone could pay your fee, and then put her copy on a web site for the general public.
Amber
Alex29
June 23, 2010
Ok for the second part :

Are you required to make it available to the public?

No, However, if someone pays your fee and gets a copy, the GPL gives them the freedom to release it to the public, with or without a fee. For example, someone could pay your fee, and then put her copy on a web site for the general public.


They are not charging a fee for the software, they are charging a fee for the support. So can we still download it and make it available to others if we pay for the support?
Isidro
Isidro
June 23, 2010
Absolutely YES. Is the software that's licensed under GPL, not the support. And ANY software licensed under GPL is freely distributable, provided that you keep the copyright notice inside the source code and its license.
raj
mahraj
June 23, 2010
This is promising. Is "WAZI" same as http://people.joomla.org/. If Yes how do one gets that User Interface as I find it very elegant and clean !
bigspring
bigspring
June 23, 2010
how do you arrange the drag & drop blocks? I don't see where this function is in the JomSocial admin panel.
Mark Lee
Mark Lee
June 23, 2010
Go to the My Applications area, you should see the drag / drop feature.
François Ayel Sampellegrini
François Ayel Sampellegrini
June 23, 2010
I think there are two concepts which contradict each other. One is the issue of the license and the other is the issue of support. If the license is GPL, the code should be downloaded for free, but support could be paid. You should put a link for free download and an option to register for the technical support payment, such as optional. The work is excellent and I congratulate you. But you should rethink the issue of the GPL and how to make Jomsocial site is compatible with the license.
Azrul
Azrul
June 24, 2010
You are terrible confused with the "Free" issue. Just head to Joomla! extension directory and you will find tons of paid GPL addons not available for free.
Amber
Alex29
June 23, 2010
So after reading all the comments, from what I understand, we are able to find jomsocial anywhere and download it. We are able to distribute it to as many people as we like BUT if we need any sort of support we have to pay for a subscription that will only give support for 1 particular website?
Lars
Lar
June 23, 2010
if i need support i will happily pay for it. if im convinced im also happy to donate.
but what your heading for if you release it as gpl is that you give away you product for "free".
the whole discussion here doesnt seem like the guys here did know what they were getting in to.
you want gpl and dont provide a download link? thats funny.

i was about to buy jomsocial a while ago, till i read about the 1.8 and gpl license. i figured ill wait test and do what i do with other open source software. i donate when im pleased. that wouldnt be 150 dollars, but 50 for sure.

when i read Azruls posts i don't see why he even took this step.

this is all apart from the quality of jomsocial, i can't tell anything about it. so far it looks great.
Azrul
Azrul
June 24, 2010
I understand your thought about the money, but in all honesty, without a means to pay the bills, most of JomSocial developers would be working on other project. Is it that hard to justify a huge social network component for $149 ?

Just head to JED and the are are plenty paid GPL apps.
testcouch
testcouch
June 23, 2010
GPL or not..guys you can not seriously expect that someone does a good job and then he gets nothing in return? That was socialism in times like this, but the days are gone!!! Good work and support must also be well rewarded. That's all I have to say ;-)
Amber
Alex29
June 23, 2010
No I expect him to get paid, i would have paid them, but I did not expect that i would have to search the internet for a bootlegged version of JomSocial to download it for free.
anton
anton
June 23, 2010
Azrul, I don't understand.
You say that JomSocial is not availabe for free, but other people are saying that suscribers can redistribute the code.
So, I have two friends that are suscribers for a few months ago. Can one of them give me their files to install on my site? Or I have to set one of them as registrant of my domain???
Sorry for my english.
Isidro
Isidro
June 23, 2010
As Jomsocial 1.8 is GPL, your friends can give you the code, and you can install, modify, redistribute or sell it if you want. But you cannot expect to get ANY support from Jomsocial site.

When you register and pay here you're paying for the support, that is, for a service, not for the code (a product).
anton
anton
June 23, 2010

So, why Jomsocial.com don't provide the link? I don't understand. I do not want to put my friends in trouble

PD: Gracias Isidro por responder. Por tu nombre doy por hecho que eres español, o de habla hispana
Azrul
Azrul
June 24, 2010
Download access support and constant updates are special privileges to our paid members.
Isidro
Isidro
June 23, 2010
Don't make me wrong: Jomsocial is not forced in any way to mandatorily provide a download link because of GPL. I'm not saying that at all. They're completely free to decide which business model they choose.

I'm not defending piracy or some kind of socialism as anybody said (was that comment seriuos?). I'm completely against piracy, and I strongly believe that authors must be paid for their work, specially if it's a high quality one as Jomsocial is. But I think that if you decide to go GPL and thus give explicit permission to legally redistribute your code, I find it a great mistake giving others the chance of making business just by distributing your code for free.

Other Joomla! extensions have gone the way from non-GPL to GPL, and they provide their software for free (see for example JoomlaCK Editor, formerly JoomlaFCK editor). Others like JEvents, Chronoforms or Remository are completely GPL since the beginning, and they allow free download of their code from their websites... but when you go there to download yo can see ads telling you that you can get professional support for a small fee, or get some extra great features paying one of their club subscriptions, or simply donate if you find it worthy.
Amber
Alex29
June 23, 2010
Yes i don't get this either, I have been waiting awhile for 1.8 I don't get why you don't provide a link to JomSocial. What is the point, in this case this is not free. I do not know anyone that uses Jomsocial so I can't get anyone to give me a link. And i don't want to risk downloading it from a third party like linkshare or something. This was very misleading.
Lars
Lars
June 23, 2010
doesnt gpl mean i can download jomsocial somewhere else (e.g. rapidshare) and use it legally ?
whats the point in not providing a download link here then ?
Sebastian
icep
June 23, 2010
Further I have the impression downloads >1y are now to be re-paid. If you want people to pay I think you should focus on making the platform robust first and then adding "funny" features.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
icep. You may use for as long as you like. Support package and the subscription will of course expired. May I know what "funny" features you refer to? Would love to explain how it works to you.
Sebastian
icep
June 23, 2010
Hi I meant for now updating is kind of a pain and not very standard compliant to other webapps "removing" the whole component sounds always bit risky as you have to think of stuff not to get lost - 3rd party apps, templates etc. Further separating code/design more - if I use one template it still mixes up with other templates blueface for example needs still default template stuff etc. am not a real code nor joomla expert maybe that is how joomla itself works but it is very "messy" apart good product itself and I'll hope to use it for a live site soon
Isidro
Isidro
June 23, 2010
All this stuff about GPL is not new. Many others have gone through it before, and you won't be the last.

I really can't understand what's the point of licensing a product under GPL and not distributing directly the code. GPL license (2.0 version, the one used by Jomsocial) clearly states that:

"You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty"

So anybody who pays the subscription and gets the code can legally redistribute it. Wouldn't it be better if you provided the code directly instead of forcing people to look for it elsewhere?

Your product is great, and complex enough to get people subscribing to your pro support. If you didn't want this discussion to take place, you only had to keep your product licensed under the old license. People would still pay for your product, because it's GREAT.

You wanna comply with Joomla!'s JED requirements? Ok, go GPL. But with all the comsequences.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
I am sorry, I really do not understand your point at all. If people want official support, continuous official updates, we ask them to support the project with a subscription plan. What is the big deal?
Isidro
Isidro
June 23, 2010
The point is this: your product is GPL, right? So I can pay for the subscription (or even for the single dollar 30 days "trial"), download the code and distribute it through my webpage totally free... or I could even sell it, if I was stupid enough to do that.

Other people could make money with your product just distributing it free of charge, but of course visiting their page and boosting their statistics, or even giving them lots of clicks on their ads. I'll say more: somebody can take the code, make a couple of tiny modifications to it (or no modifications at all) and "rebrand" it, creating a completely new product, and make business with it. And it would be completely legal. Not very honest, but legal. That's GPL!

GPL doesn't force you to distribute the code, but IMHO, once you get your software licensed under it it's a good idea to keep control under its distribution, because it'll be distributed anyway. It's hard creating a business around a GPL licensed product, but if there's something I'm completely sure about is that not being the main distributor of your code is a big mistake.

And just to let this clear: I believe that yours is a great product. I think it's worth paying for your support. I'm not a client, I have never installed Jomsocial or managed it, but I've been using it as end user for a while, and I really love it.
Carga Sok Tee
Carga Sok Tee
June 23, 2010
Im one of the happy people who are using Jomsocial. This component made my year of success. Thanks you arzul... Hope you will add Advertising capabilities on Jomsocial. Thank you again and God Bless you all!
irwan
irwan
June 23, 2010
JomSocial should be capable of holding any advertising modules from other Advertising extensions. You can check many quality ads extensions at JED. And I think our partner, TechJoomla has just released Social Ads, just like the on at Facebook
Andre AP
June 23, 2010
I can't believe so many people are asking "FREE or NOT FREE". This is a great component. I tried it, loved it, and recommend it. Hey, nothing is perfect. Paying is one of the reason why it's not perfect... but u get awesome support from Azrul Team. Worth every penny.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
Thank you. That is all we are trying to do. For most of people, the cost of JomSocial far outweigh the cost of trying to implement similar social site. I hope you find it useful
hpuB
June 23, 2010
I'm a costumer of JomComment, and I'm very dissapointed. From what I've read to this moment, I interpret that Jomsocial 1.8 must be paid.

I think all this has been a good free advertising campaign in wich many people have made absurd illusions.

All this would has been repaired from the begining if Jomsocial team would have wrote clearly about it, instead of feeding a huge ball of smoke.

So, they are free to do they want with their software, like we are free to looking for other alternatives.
qwe
qwe
June 23, 2010
Full ACK! You are right. I could have spent my time else...but not waiting for 1.8!
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
I understand you could have spend your time somewhere else, but you're here and reading and responding to this blog. For that I do thank you and I do appreciate your feedback. Since you have an account here, you're free to take it for a spin.
qwe
qwe
June 23, 2010
Azrul, i like JomSocial, but the info was missleading for me. I thought you would only sell support from now on (for what i would pay for sure). But in this case there is still no chance for me to test JomSocial without having the fear to have to buy it. Your 1 $ option to test things is nice, but i am not that trustfull in billing... ;-) What about the test period? When do i know it ends, if i should give it a chance? Will it deactivate or something?
avanzaxxi
avanzaxxi
June 23, 2010
I totally agree with you...
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
Yes. You still need to pay for subscription and support contract to access the official JomSocial download. We have never ever said otherwise. Maintaining the paid subscription is important to ensure viability of the project.

Yes, everyone is free to look for other software as we never force you to use our apps. But many found ours extremely useful and well worth the money they paid.
Net-Reporter
June 23, 2010
Or we just looking for a alternative Download-Link - cause the code is free^^
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 23, 2010
Freedom in GPL does not mean Free. Freedom in this context is freedom in using/modifying the codes whatever the user wish.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
No code is ever free. Someone paid the price of developing it. Spending their time and energy. In our case, our subscription will help ensure fund the project and allow the developer to do more kick ass stuff in the future.

I am sure you're smart enough to understand that right ? :-)
Net-Reporter
June 23, 2010
Jetzt wissen wir zumindest, dass die GNU/GPL nur genommen wurde, damit freie Entwickler neue Erweiterungen für JomSocial und damit (logisch) mehr Erweiterungen zur Verfügung stehen. Okay. Das leuchtet ein. Aber die Promotion die zuvor für v1.8 betrieben wurde, ließ eindeutig etwas anderes annehmen. Unter anderem eben, dass JomSocial zukünftig kostenlos zur Verfügung steht und nur noch der Support und Erweiterungen kostenpflichtig sind.

Und mit dieser Meinung stehe ich offensichtlich nicht alleine da. Zumindest wenn man den Verlauf der Kommentare betrachtet. Und Fuqaha schrieb ja selbst:

"Im sorry, I believe you are wrong. You can install any version of JomSocial without limit. For example, installing jomsocial on 1,000 sites. But we will only provide support for one specific domain which is licensed with us.

In a nutshell, we are selling support. By opting for 5 site license, you will be getting support for 5 sites. "

Accordingly, it is merely a support story. Right? Then you can expect when you get the code elsewhere, may use this code also:) Because, according to one has the possibility of Fuqaha "For example, installing 1.000 on jomsocial sites. But we will only provide support for one specific domain which is licensed with us ".

And that such statements are confusing and even misleading somewhere. I would not ask the questions, would you then when the news came an interview, agreed. Other developers are more cooperative.

If you received more questions in advance, these discus ions would not now take place. And the fact is nunmal, that alone is the discus ion on the subject of unwelcome publicity.

Best regards
Net-Reporter
Net-Reporter
June 23, 2010
WRONG LANGUAGE: SORRY! Here the right one:
Fale-Post-Before, here is the right on - just delete the one before - i am sorry!

Now at least we know that the GNU / GPL was only taken so that free developers to add new extensions for JomSocial and thus (logically) more extensions are available. Okay. That makes sense. But the promotion was previously operated for v1.8, had assumed clearly indicates otherwise. Among other things, just that future JomSocial available at no cost and only the support and enhancements are a charge.

And with this opinion I am obviously not alone. At least if one considers the overall direction of the comments. And even Fuqaha wrote:

"Im sorry, I believe you are wrong. You can install any version of JomSocial without limit. For example, installing 1.000 on jomsocial sites. But we will only provide support for one specific domain which is licensed with us.

In a nutshell, we are selling support. By opting for 5 site license, you will be getting support for five sites. "

Accordingly, it is merely a support story. Right? Then you can expect when you get the code elsewhere, may use this code also:) Because, according to one has the possibility of Fuqaha "For example, installing 1.000 on jomsocial sites. But we will only provide support for one specific domain which is licensed with us ".

And that such statements are confusing and even misleading somewhere. I would not ask the questions, would you then when the news came an interview, agreed. Other developers are more cooperative.

If you received more questions in advance, these discus ions would not now take place. And the fact is nunmal, that alone is the discus ion on the subject of unwelcome publicity.

Best regards
Net-Reporter
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 23, 2010
GNU General Public License does not mean every software is free. It is a license to protect user's interest and allow users to freely modify the code to their liking.

Yes, it also mean you could use the software without any domain limitation whatsoever. Have a look at our GNUGPL license here: http://www.jomsocial.com/company/license-agreement.html and do yourselves a favor by googling 'common misconception with GNUGPL'. One good read is here: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/GNU_GPL.

We have never announced that JomSocial will be free, what we ever did is stating that JomSocial 1.8 will be GNU-GPL compliant. It is a license which allow unrestricted access to the code.

GNU/GPL is freedom of usage (in simplest term). Do not delude GNU/GPL with being free.

Hope you will have fun with JomSocial 1.8 Wazi.

=)
Al41
June 22, 2010
I'm sorry, but I'm confused...do we have to pay to get jomsocial 1.8? Even if we don't want support?
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 23, 2010
JomSocial is a subscription-based, GNU/GPL component. You will have to be a valid subscriber in order to download the package. Afterwards, you are free to install it in as many sites as you wish, however support is only provided for registered site.
Our source code is open since day 1, even before GNU/GPL compliance.
Net-Reporter
June 23, 2010
Whats that? U deleting my Comments? I only ask some Questions - are u scared?
Philip Roy
Philip Roy
June 22, 2010
Brilliant update. Perhaps some time could be spent on your other products (JomComment and MyBlog) that have seen no updates in well over 18 months? Or at least some statement on whether they are dead in the water? Sorry to post this here, but the lack of comment on these has been staggering.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
JomComment is a saperate project than JomSocial. It has remain largely stable. We have finite resource and will allocate them as necessary. You are looking at new JomComment now and we will release it once it is ready
Philip Roy
Philip Roy
June 23, 2010
Then why are you charging an annual subscription fee to users to entitle us to all updates, only for no updates to come out? Your "allocate them as necessary" comment really shows your attitude to one of your own products. I've loved these products but it is clear that no resources have been "allocated" to them for some time.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
You do not have to pay to continuously use JomComment. If there is no compelling update at the moment, you do not have to pay for the renewal.
Philip Roy
Philip Roy
June 23, 2010
Yes, how silly of me not to realize that you weren't intending on doing anything with your products for well over 18 months. Come on…you seem to be completely unappreciative of the good will that your customers place on you by paying that annual subscription fee for what is claimed to be access to updates and future versions. You've given no indication that there was no work occurring on either JomComment or MyBlog, you shut down the forums related to these products, but seem to have been willing to continue to collect those fees….whilst now almost suggesting it's our fault we chose to invest in your expertise and product. That's exceptionally poor business practice.
zaff0012
June 22, 2010
yup, thats quite true, for over a year there's no update for JomComment..
Jas
Jas
June 22, 2010
Regarding GPL. I just want to acknowledge that the work that is being done here on this product is brilliant and worth every penny of the licensing fee. small price to pay for awesome coding. Thank you.
Azrul
Azrul
June 23, 2010
Thank you very much. We appreciate your support
qwe
qwe
June 22, 2010
Is it free or not? Or do people have to still pay for? I haven't got the point in this GPL 1.8 stuff...
irwan
irwan
June 23, 2010
Since it's a subscription based GPL product, you will need to subscribe first to get the access to the latest version of JomSocial and priority support. The point of GPL is that you can do whatever you want with it as long as it's adhere to GPL license agreement. http://www.jomsocial.com/company/license-agreement.html
guest101
June 22, 2010
A changelog would be great, it's better than having to explore for changes.
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 23, 2010
Changelog is always posted here:
http://www.jomsocial.com/docs/Change_Log
Lars
Lars
June 22, 2010
where can i download this ? want to test before i purchase..
this is weird. you release the gpl version and forget to post a download link ?
irwan
irwan
June 23, 2010
As above reply, it's a subscription based GPL product. You can try our $1 trial if you don't want spend a lot for trying our product. Anyway, all of our products are covered by 30-days money back guarantee.
Wilf James
Wilf James
June 22, 2010
Tried to update with no luck. Followed the instructions. Have reinstalled the last 1.6 and now I have problems with that??
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 22, 2010
Please post in our forum, and be as descriptive as possible. :)
avanzaxxi
avanzaxxi
June 22, 2010
Where can I download this version?
hpuB
June 22, 2010
I have the same question! :-)
dazeal
dazeal
June 22, 2010
Great news, thank you for tweeting it. Just wondering, how do you jump from 1.6 to 1.8? - Can't wait to try out the new features, TY. :)
irwan
irwan
June 23, 2010
If you use the template overriding and does not hack the core code, you should be able to upgrade on top of the current installation.

update: or check Fuqaha's link below ;)
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 22, 2010
Have a look here:
http://www.jomsocial.com/docs/Upgrading

and some sticked instructions in our Install/Upgrade forum:
http://www.jomsocial.com/forum/index.php?f=7&rb_v=viewforum

=)
avanzaxxi
avanzaxxi
June 22, 2010
ok, but where is the dowload link??
dazeal
dazeal
June 22, 2010
I'm a convert from Ning and new to JomSocial, thank you for your help. :)
Joep
June 22, 2010
Amazing work!!! Will update it this weekend :-) can't wait
PaulM
June 22, 2010
Is this the GPL release?
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 22, 2010
Yes, it is. View our license: http://www.jomsocial.com/company/license-agreement.html

You can use it on multiple domains, but official support is only provided for licensed domain.
PaulM
June 22, 2010
Thanks for the clarification, you need to update the buy now page to make it clearer there is no linkback or domain limitation.
I bet a lot more people will download now its GPL.
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zaff0012
June 22, 2010
but i do think users still can removed the powered by link if this software licensed under GPL rite?
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 23, 2010
Since Day 1 even before GNU/GPL, users can do whatever they wish with our codes.
HerdBoy
June 22, 2010
You seem to be terribly confused about the GPL License
fuqaha
fuqaha
June 22, 2010
Im sorry, I believe you are wrong. You can install any version of JomSocial without limit. For example, installing jomsocial on 1,000 sites. But we will only provide support for one specific domain which is licensed with us.

In a nutshell, we are selling support. By opting for 5 site license, you will be getting support for 5 sites.
zaff0012
June 22, 2010
and the 5 site license also contradict GPL license ...
i do think the Jomsocial store page is not yet update rite?
Azrul
Azrul
June 22, 2010
Updated..
brianteeman
June 22, 2010
thanks for removing the misleading information
AC
AC
June 22, 2010
Events events events!!!!
tnx a lot!!
busy